What Does It Mean to be Carnally Minded
David L Lamon | February 20, 2010
What Does It Mean to be Carnally Minded
David L Lamon
Romans 8:6-8 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
What does it mean for a believer to be carnally minded? Itâ€™s a mindset that is contrary to God and His will for their lives. For a person to profess a relationship with Christ and yet to be so fixated on the world that their mind no longer relates to the will of God is to be carnally minded. How can a person such as this actually be born again? Those who are truly born from God are focused on God; their lives have been turned over to Him. They are willing to stand on His precepts no matter what the consequences. And they would never knowingly vote for someone who stands in direct opposition to Godâ€™s precepts.
There is no â€œin betweenâ€ area to hope for here. Jesus said, â€œHe that is not with me is against me; Matthew 12:30. We canâ€™t be for Obama and with Jesus at the same time, thatâ€™s impossible. Jesus took a firm stand on right and wrong and thoroughly expects His followers to show the same regard for the things we know to be evil. Homosexuality is wrong, and itâ€™s an abomination for a believer â€œin Christâ€ to vote for a candidate who openly condones such a abhorrent behavior. Itâ€™s wrong to kill the unborn. The baby in the womb is known by God. The baby is innocent of any wrong doing. Why would any believer hang on the side of such error, disregarding Godâ€™s inerrant word? Carnality, they are after the flesh, not the spirit. Romans 8:6-8 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
The word enmity means (Strongâ€™s concordance #G 2189) means hatred. If you are at enmity with God it means you hate God. Wow. How many professing to being born again voted for Obama, the man who stands against the one true God? Many. Well then, how many Christians voted carnally in the last presidential election? Every professing Christian who marked Obama for President on their ballet sheet. Let me ask the question again but phrased slightly differently. How many Christians hate God? All who stand with any man who is at enmity with God.
Weâ€™ve now seen this man in action for a whole year and are faced with enduring three more years with a man who being duly elected president of the US is thoroughly content in his failure to follow God in any way. Obama is at enmity with God. In other words Obama hates God, if he didnâ€™t he wouldnâ€™t be so firmly entrenched in the issues that are obviously opposed to God (abortion, homosexuality, etc).
Obama actually had the audacity to make the claim that he is a follower of Jesus Christ, yet he stands against God in every decision he makes. Why then should he have received even one vote from those who profess to stand with God? The carnal mindset is the only answer. When God’s children don’t pray on a regular basis this is what happens. Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. And study what is in God’s word to avoid the inevitable, which is becoming contemptuous of his righteousness because; Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. Galatians 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. Here we are trying desperately to understand how God could allow this man into office to run a nation built on Christian principles, when all it takes is a little scrutiny through His word to find the answer. Carnality is at the core.
â€œIf ye were of the world, the world would love his own:â€ John 15:19a. The lost (nonbelievers in Christ) are of the world and they are perishing, and the world certainly loves their own. Believers should not be in love with this world, moreover this world should know that all Christians are opposed to every immoral and evil deed set down. But as long as Christians live with a carnal mindset the world will continue to love them just as they do their own.
â€œSo then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.â€ Romans 8:8. All the while believers remain in the flesh, and carnally minded, they wonâ€™t be pleasing God. I wonder how many Christian believers actually understand that verse. Being born again means we are focused on pleasing God, not ourselves. No matter what befalls a true born again believer in Christ we will remain true to God and His word.
When we pursue earthly wealth and materialism to the point that Godâ€™s will is diminished in our lives, wrong decisions, like voting for someone with Obamaâ€™s credentials or lack thereof, can only lead to becoming even more carnally minded. But if we are spiritually minded our mindset will be one of allowing the Holy Spirit to lead us into godly decisions. Obviously many who profess Christ as their Savior and Lord but are more concerned about the things of the world are not allowing the Holy Spirit a place in their decision making process. Luke 21:33-36 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Many lost people voted for Obama because they were afraid of losing their material wealth, they believed his lies. Nothing was as important as the financial situation in the minds of most who voted for him, and that goes for many Christians also. As long as believers stay in that mindset it wonâ€™t really matter who runs for the office of president. As long as the candidate relates to that materialistic mindset (the flesh), the other issues of the day will just fade away. The flesh will get in the way of every decision when the mind is in that carnal mode. This is enmity with God.
â€œBut ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.â€ Romans 8:9. The apostle Paul is speaking here to the believers in Rome. He say that if we profess to be a follower of Jesus Christ but we havenâ€™t His Spirit dwelling in us we are not His. If I may elaborate a little further on Paulâ€™s comments, if we donâ€™t have Christ then we are still Satanâ€™s property. And obviously, being in the flesh will be a very natural and basically everyday occurrence.
â€œTherefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.â€ Romans 8:12. As believers we owe no debt to the flesh or Satan, but to God. We are born from God when we became believers in His Son. We owe God a huge debt of gratitude that we can never repay. Why allow the flesh to reign over us since we owe the flesh nothing? To whom do we give our allegiance?
â€œFor if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.â€ Romans 8:13, 14. Believers have spiritually â€œdiedâ€ to sin and the power of the flesh, and in general to all spiritual association with the world. We now belong to Christ and our identification is in Him. We who are believers in Christ are no longer unregenerate (lost) nor should we live according to the flesh (carnally). We have been designated â€œsons of Godâ€. As such we have put the flesh to death.
This mindset of living carnally and hence in enmity with God has corrupted many a believer. When we who are Godâ€™s children take a stance for evil we are in rebellion to God and consequently we are at enmity to God. If you are one of those folks that has placed Obama on a pedestal and elevated him to a status above God in your life because of your foolish tendencies toward wealth and materialism and your fear of losing what earthly possessions youâ€™ve acquired, then Obama has become your god. Who then will you be relying on for your salvation? If you are at enmity with God Almighty you might want to re-think your claim to eternal salvation.
â€œ…carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life… Romans 8:6. Where do you stand in relationship to your Creator God? Are you carnally minded? If you are, then you are living according to the flesh, and your mindset is flawed. Do you hate God? Surely you donâ€™t. But if your mindset is carnal itâ€™s time to make a change. A relationship with God is based on our faith in Him in all earthly endeavors. God is the believerâ€™s providence, and believers are saved to serve not to strive for and attain earthly rewards such as wealth and power. Carnally minded or Holy Spirit filled? You canâ€™t have it both ways.
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