RSSEnforcement Works – Illegal Immigration Down
J.J. Jackson | August 5, 2008
Well, I am sure that liberals will have some very dour things to say about the fact that enforcing our immigration laws results in lower rates of illegal immigration.
WASHINGTON — A report Wednesday indicating a marked decline in the number of illegal immigrants in the U.S. fueled a widening national debate over the Bush administration’s policy of immigration enforcement through aggressive workplace raids.
The largest such enforcement action was in May in Postville, Iowa, where federal immigration agents descended on a meatpacking plant and arrested nearly 400 workers later detained in a building used to house cattle.
The administration began aggressively enforcing workplace laws after Congress last year failed to pass an immigration overhaul. In the months since, thousands of workers have been arrested in scores of raids.…
The report by the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington-based think tank, says that the number of illegal immigrants fell about 11% between last August and May, from 12.5 million to 11.2 million. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-immig31-2008jul31,0,5003860.story
No, this cannot possibly be true can it?
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When it was easy to cross, it was easy to make the decision to go back. It used to be that illegal immigrants would come to work, go back to be with family, come back to work, and so on. Only those who with a good job had been pretty solidly incorporated into the US economy and the American community would consider bringing their family. As it became harder to cross, it became less likely they’d go back, and more likely they’d bring their loved ones to be with them, even if their condition here was not very secure.
Reports are coming out now that the downturn in the economy is causing migrations back. When an illegal immigrant is not needed, he’ll leave. When and where he’s needed, it means those areas of the economy are healthy. Government harassing those healthy parts of our economy is a very bad idea. Yeah, enforcement works, because it accelerates the downturn in the economy.
Over the past 30 years, the size of the average Mexican family in Mexico has decreased from mom-dad-six-kids to mom-dad-two-kids. With a stable population, and a growing free market economy, soon Mexicans will no longer be interested in us. In fact, it’s likely the recent decreases in crossings (apprehensions) are simply a result of that.
The fence is a big waste of money. In twenty years, we’ll be looking at it with embarrassment.
As long as Mexico is a corrupt banana republic Mexicans will always seek to cross illegally into the United States because the United States is better. Although that might change come November.
The only thing that is an “embarrassment” is on Mexico’s part such as many of their people would rather come to America illegally than live in their own country legally.
Mexico has a long history of corruption. But thankfully that is changing. There’s been much progress the last dozen years or so, in part because there’s been a lot of coming and going. With the rise of illegal immigration we’ve seen great economic growth and historic low levels or unemployment in the US. But they take back with them ideas that work, freedom and democracy.
arturo fernandez on August 5th, 2008 9:09 pm:
“But they take back with them ideas that work, freedom and democracy.”
No, what they take back with them is the idea that it is ok to break the law and that they will be rewarded for doing so. Wrong lesson to teach.
That with illegal immigration has come prosperity means the government was wrong in making it illegal. Amnesty means we take responsibility and we’re fixing our mistake.
I’m surprised that a libertarian believes that economic interests should surrender to bad government laws, rather than laws being guided by the free market.
arturo fernandez on August 5th, 2008 9:34 pm:
“That with illegal immigration has come prosperity means the government was wrong in making it illegal. Amnesty means we take responsibility and we’re fixing our mistake.”
No, the prosperity came despite illegal immigration not because of it. Nice try but your attempt to justify the commissioning of a crime by claiming that the crime brought good things is not going to fly.
Amnesty means that you don’t want to be held accountable for committing a crime you knew was a crime.
“I’m surprised that a libertarian believes that economic interests should surrender to bad government laws, rather than laws being guided by the free market.”
Then you do not understand “libertarianism”. You probably have been listening to those faux libertarians who believe in open borders. Libertarianism believes in rights with limits that you do not infringe on someone else’s rights.
You assume the law was bad. But you have not explained why the law is bad. You have just simply stated it as being bad.
Here is why it is not bad. As a nation, we have to determine who can and who cannot come here. The sad reality of it is that we cannot accept everyone with a desire to come here. So we set standards to test to see if someone is worthy of becoming an American.
The first of those tests are our immigration laws, which if anything, are “bad” because they arbitrarily favor people from certain countries (like Mexico) instead of judging each person based on their own merits.
There is nothing inherently bad with a country securing its borders and desiring to keep out people not interested in following her laws. Illegal aliens would fall into this category because they cannot even follow simple procedures to come here legally. We do not want or need people like this the United States.
When you break those laws you fail the test. And when you do further criminal acts such as stealing the identities of other people to get jobs and harm their credit, etc. you are certainly harming their rights.
One does not have a right to be in a certain country because you do not like your nation of origin. It is a privelege you must earn. And that violates no one’s rights.
I’m not sure you said that at all well LP which is unusual for you. Usually you are much more eloquent.
To sum it up for arturo, who seems only interested in justifying lawlessness, being an American is not a “right” one has. That considered libertarians do not see any problem with laws concerning immigration except like LP said when they favor people arbitrarily from certain countries.
Current immigration laws set aside a good deal of slots for persons from Central and South America when they should make no distinction as to origin only qualification to be productive citizens who believe in liberty and are willing to support inalienable rights.
If Mexicans don’t like their own country, they have the inalienable right to reform it and even emulate us when reforming theirs. But they do not have a right to live in ours. Such a right was never articulated by any of the founders or any of the philosophers that influenced them.