MUSLIM OBAMA ‘WILL STAND WITH MUSLIMS SHOULD POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN UGLY DIRECTION’

Grant Swank | March 29, 2008 

J। Grant Swank, Jr.

This is what Barack Obama said following 9/11:

“In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

Further, Obama sponsors Illinois Senate Bill 750 creating the “Halal Food Act,” providing for inspections by the Department of Agriculture to ensure that all food labeled Halal is prepared according to Islamic law per freedom’s enemies web site.

Note: “Governor Ryan today signed Senate Bill 750 creating the ‘Halal Food Act,’ providing for inspections by the Department of Agriculture to ensure that all food labeled Halal is prepared according to Islamic law.

“’Muslims are valued members of our communities and this official recognition by the state reflects Illinois’ commitment to supporting the interests of all citizens,’ Governor Ryan said. ‘This law will give Muslims in Illinois confidence that the Halal food products they buy are indeed prepared according to Islamic law’” per AP.

In addition: “On January 31st, Obama told a French magazine in an interview that if he wins office, he will hold a summit with Muslim countries to better the United States’ image in the world।

“’Once I’m elected, I want to organize a summit in the Muslim world, with all the heads of state, to have an honest discussion about ways to bridge the gap that grows every day between Muslims and the West’” per freedom’s enemies.

I believe Obama is a Muslim.

Why do I think so?

First, he’s lived twenty years with a cultic preacher who has proclaimed hate against America। Yes, hate against America.

Jeremiah Wright has contexted that hatred against whites, but when you get right down to his rants, they are hatred against America, disrespect for America, slamming America for being responsible for 9 / 11 and so forth।

A Muslim hates America, has no regard for its Constitution, its history and is an anarchist at heart। Wright’s sermons border on if not endorse outright anarchism as blackism.

Second, Obama is a liberal to the nth degree, the left of the left in Congress। That would fit a Muslim who is for death bottom line: death to unborn babies, death to biblical definition of family and marriage, death to Judeo-Christian backdrop, death to freedom of religious expression, death to biblical morality.

Muslims live to die। They embrace death as the final glory offering to Allah.

Third, Obama is not Christian as he claims। He does not regard the Jesus of the Bible as his Jesus। If Obama did so, he would live by Jesus’ ethic which does not include abortion and homosexual open recreation.

Muslims accept Jesus as a prophet only but not the Jesus as deity incarnate of the Bible। Therefore, Obama is right in line with the Muslim definition of Jesus as he proclaims that he met Jesus in an epiphany at his Chicago church.

Fourth, Obama lies। He says he is for women. He is for aborting female womb babies. He says he is for freedom for all. He is not for freedom of the unborn. He says he is Christian. He is a liberal religionist who writes his own holy writ. He says he is a moral individual. He is pro-sodomy.

Muslims are taught that lying is a holy gift to Allah। Then Obama lies. It could be his litany of holy presents to the Muslim deity.

Fifth, Obama promises “change” and “unite।” He does not define what he means by “change.” That change could be pro-Muslim which is Islam World Rule.

That “unite” could be uniting Muslim sleeper cells and ignorant Americans around an anti-Republic overthrow।

In an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times, Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, “with a first-class [Arabic] accent.”

The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada:
“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!I witness that there is no god but AllahI witness that there is no god but AllahI witness that Muhammad is his
prophet… “

According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim। This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim’s complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam.

Obama knows this from his Quranic studies — and he knows the New York Times will publish this fact and it will be seen throughout the Islamic world per freedom’s enemies web site।

His wife, Michelle, is a liberal lawyer who holds to the same theological and political liberal bases as Barack। They train their children likewise. This could be a Muslim mask family.

Michelle has no regard for unborn children, even endorsing partial-birth abortion as does Barack। She is for sodomy, too.

She has been angry at America until Barack’s political success। Her explosion in glee in finally being proud to be an American is evidence that prior she was angry, just as Wright preaches anger, hatred, and revolution.

Wright preaches “black liberation theology” against the “white value system” which is in other words revolution against America।

Yes, Obama could be Muslim। He had a Muslim father but did not know him, had no influence from him. That’s what he says. But can we believe Obama?

Obama’s mother was a literary elitist who was exceptionally well informed on a variety of life issues। She was a free spirit and hard working mother. She was not a religious person in that she did not hold to any particular faith.

Could it be that Obama logged into Christianity via one of the most liberal denominations in the world — the United Church of Christ — in order to find fodder there? And wedded to Wright though he now says otherwise? And indoctrinated his family in such revolutionary philosophies
over twenty years?

How can a person who loves his nation tolerate such cultic messages over twenty years, joining the church, no less, and calling the speaker his mentor if that individual, Obama, were not finally
anti-American?

I believe he is at heart anti-American। In that, I believe he is Muslim, disciple of Allah in disguise.

I no longer consider such a possibility extremist। It is a logical possibility.

Read freedom’s enemies at http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_more/obama.htm


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35 Responses to “MUSLIM OBAMA ‘WILL STAND WITH MUSLIMS SHOULD POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN UGLY DIRECTION’”

  1. LibertarianPrince (Moderator) on March 29th, 2008 4:36 pm

    He might be a faux Christian as most liberals are, but I still do not believe he is a Muslim.

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  3. Paul on May 2nd, 2008 9:38 am

    The full quote from page 261 of “The Audacity of Hope” is below if anyone cares to read it. The Senator was describing the sense of fear post 9-11 and likened the profiling of Arab americans to the WW-II conditions in which innocent Japanese Americans were locked up.

    The main thing Jesus preached was love. “Love thy neighbor as thyself.” You have allowed Jesus to be hijacked by a republican party plays lip service to God and morals. Dick Cheney has a gay daughter. Is he a Christian? Was he a Christian when he got 5 deferments to avoid Vietnam? Was he a Christian when he sent 4,000 Americans to die over “weapons of mass destruction”?

    How do you know Obama is a Muslim? Who are you to judge? God says he knows our hearts and he says “Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again” Are you God? Can you really stand and say who is saved?

    Now here’s the real stupidity of your argument, God makes Muslims too. He makes everyone. he makes human beings and not boogeymen. Muslim doesn’t equal terrorist. The last 8 years were a lie, sir. Grow up and just say you hate Muslims, you hate blacks. Say you are filled with hate. That’s cool. The secret is if you confess it and repent, God and man will forgive you.

    One question for you, how many times did Jesus preach on sodomy? I agree it is a sin, but we all sin and come short of the glory. Jesus preached zero times on sodomoy though. He spent way more time talking about forgiveness, hope, and love. Thomas Jefferson said “He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.” I suggest you read a book or two. Start with The Bible.

    FULL Quote from Audacity of Hope:

    “Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

  4. PinguMama (Sr. Moderator) on May 2nd, 2008 8:04 pm

    Paul, so many words, yet you say nothing.

    “The main thing Jesus preached was love. “Love thy neighbor as thyself.” You have allowed Jesus to be hijacked by a republican party plays lip service to God and morals. ”

    Really? Ok you want to talk about what Jesus preached? I’m sure you don’t but since you broached the topic we’ll go there.

    Jesus preached the ten (10) commandments and added the “new” commandment. I remind you that the ten (10) commandments discuss not coveting what your neighbor has or stealing his stuff. Both of which are key platforms to the Marxist, wealth redistribution programs of liberals who are mostly Democrats.

    You liberals are pathetic in how you try to hack up the teachings of Jesus to promote unChristian things. But then again the devil can quote scripture when it suits him.

    So when you actually have a real understanding of what God and His only son commanded get back to me ok?

  5. LibertarianPrince (Moderator) on May 2nd, 2008 8:13 pm

    Paul on May 2nd, 2008 9:38 am:

    “The full quote from page 261 of “The Audacity of Hope” is below if anyone cares to read it. The Senator was describing the sense of fear post 9-11 and likened the profiling of Arab americans to the WW-II conditions in which innocent Japanese Americans were locked up.”

    Ah yes, another liberal myth about how Arabs were being “profiled” and treated unfairly after 9-11. We’re still waiting for more than the odd account of some lone wacko acting badly towards Muslims to back this up.

    But believing it makes for a good story which Obama can use to relate right?

    “God says he knows our hearts and he says “Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again” Are you God? Can you really stand and say who is saved?”

    I have no fear of God judging me. So there you have it.

    Want to talk about “stupid” arguments? You’re entire comment is filled with them.

    “Dick Cheney has a gay daughter. Is he a Christian?”

    How is the sexuality of Cheney’s daughter translatable to Cheney’s faith? It’s not.

    “Was he a Christian when he got 5 deferments to avoid Vietnam?”

    Ok so now you are saying anyone that didn’t serve in Vietnam or the military is not a Christian? My God now you’ve in kook land.

    “Was he a Christian when he sent 4,000 Americans to die over “weapons of mass destruction”?”

    Actually if you would get your head out of your DNC talking point memos you would know 1) that that was not the only reason but I’m sure unalienable rights aren’t for brown people in your eyes 2) Cheney is not the Commander in Chief of the Military and doesn’t send troops in to wars and 3) that WMDs were found.

  6. paul on May 3rd, 2008 7:26 am

    Smart guys, you cannot play politics of association selectively. Obama is a radical because his pastor is one. Obama is a muslim, because he dad was one. Fine. Cheney is gay because his daughter is. Bush killed a man with his car, because his wife did (look it up, laura killed a boy). McCain is a drug addict, because his wife was one. Jesus preached and associated with lepers, outcasts, prostitutes, tax collectors, etc. Is he any of those things? Politics of association makes no sense.

    Next, this whole post is predicated on a book you refuse to read. One man writes a lie, and your biases accepts the lie as truth. The real challenge would be to read. Any fool can believe a lie. Middle eastern people had their businesses burned, were attacked, and suffered all manor of injustice post 9-11. Since Arabs, Iranians and others scare you, and you won’t ask one, read some newpapers from that period.

    We live in days of grace. Our works do not save us. Jesus saves us and no one has a right to try to peer into another mans heart and say, “He is a man of God.”. Obama is a Christian, xenophobes. sorry to bust up your hate party.

    Good luck finding the WMDs. Also if you are so outraged about associations why is the Bush family friends with the Saudi Royal family? Last time I checked, most of the hijackers were Saudi.

    Chrisians do not ask other men to die for a mistake. Bush, Cheney, Gingrich, Limbaugh, and all your other champions. Go read and see how they avoided service when they were needed to fight the unjust war of their era.

  7. RonniesRayGun (moderator) on May 3rd, 2008 8:46 am

    paul on May 3rd, 2008 7:26 am

    “Smart guys, you cannot play politics of association selectively. Obama is a radical because his pastor is one. Obama is a muslim, because he dad was one. Fine. Cheney is gay because his daughter is. Bush killed a man with his car, because his wife did (look it up, laura killed a boy). McCain is a drug addict, because his wife was one. Jesus preached and associated with lepers, outcasts, prostitutes, tax collectors, etc. Is he any of those things? Politics of association makes no sense. ”

    Paul, you can be held accountable for people you choose to associate with like your pastor of 20 years. That however has absolutely nothing to do with being a drug addict because of your wife or homosexual because of your daughter. You are not “smart” to even try to make those assumptions.

    However if you sit in the pews of a radical pastor for twenty years and say “Amen” while he is preaching hate those are actions you can be held to account for.

    “Next, this whole post is predicated on a book you refuse to read. One man writes a lie, and your biases accepts the lie as truth. The real challenge would be to read. Any fool can believe a lie.”

    You are living proof of that. As for not having to worry about doing good works to go to Heaven I am sure you use that every day to justify not doing them.

    “Good luck finding the WMDs.”

    Already found. Oops talking point DESTROYED!

    “Also if you are so outraged about associations why is the Bush family friends with the Saudi Royal family? Last time I checked, most of the hijackers were Saudi.”

    But they weren’t members of the Saudi Royal family so that is silly and trollish.

    “Chrisians do not ask other men to die for a mistake. Bush, Cheney, Gingrich, Limbaugh, and all your other champions. Go read and see how they avoided service when they were needed to fight the unjust war of their era.”

    Back to the argument of how if one did serve, they are not Christian argument I see. As a vet of Vietnam who took bullets so you could espouse your hatred I am deeply offended. FYI Bush did serve and did not avoid service.

  8. J.J. Jackson (Admin) on May 3rd, 2008 12:49 pm

    Just for the record myself, libertarianprince, RRG, PM and many others are on record here as not abiding by Mr. Swank’s take about Obama being a Muslim.

    Enough with the shotgun responses here Paul. You will not be allowed to take the doctrine of Christ and God out of context and promote falsities.

  9. Jeff Burwell on May 11th, 2008 11:50 pm

    Don’t you all love the way some people love to quote that “Judge not” scripture when they are confronted with sin? I guess John the Baptist, O.T. prophets, etc. were all in serious error with our Lord. Clearly, pointing out that someone is committing sin is not “judgment”.

  10. Atiya on May 14th, 2008 10:34 am

    “Muslims are taught that lying is a holy gift to Allah। ..” what the f*** is this supposed to mean ??

  11. Noel on May 15th, 2008 8:47 pm

    Youre argument has so many holes in it. First of all, what evidence do you have that: A Muslim hates America, has no regard for its Constitution, its history and is an anarchist at heart. Thats not true and even if it is, and Obama does (which isnt true either), Obama could be, er, a non-muslim that hates America and has no regard for its constitution? Also, Wright is a christian, or is that impossible in your opinion? Secondly, death to freedom of religious expression? Did i interperet this wrongly or are you advocating the fact that Muslims shoudnt have their religious expression? If you are for freedom of religious expression, then why does it matter to you if Obama is a muslim? Thirdly, you can make the bible say anything if you want it too. If i had read the bible, im guessing i’d be able to give you quotes on how god wants freedom of expression and show you how God never mentions abortion. Fourth, being against abortion has nothing to do with being a muslim. Fifth, That change could be pro-Muslim which is Islam World Rule. That is rediculous, and if it happens, then many liberals that support him now would turn against him. I promise. Your article is ridiculous and i hope you read this post. Not all muslims are evil! If anything, learn that. (i am agnostic by the way).

  12. LibertarianPrince (Moderator) on May 16th, 2008 6:14 am

    Noel,

    In your posts on the other thread you talk about Grant’s errors, yet you have just as many.

    “Did i interperet this wrongly or are you advocating the fact that Muslims shoudnt have their religious expression? If you are for freedom of religious expression, then why does it matter to you if Obama is a muslim?”

    Should freedom of religion be absolute? If your religion requires you to sacrifice a virgin or in the case of radical Islam kill infidels should that be protected? No and it isn’t under the Constitution. One has never had the right to violate someone else’s rights in pursuit of their own which is why we fought a war to end slavery when the southern states decided they didn’t like that we were actually going to start enforcing that doctrine.

    Of course this does not mean that I think Obama is a Muslim. I am on record, as are others, as saying that he is just a deluded Christian.

    “Thirdly, you can make the bible say anything if you want it too. If i had read the bible, im guessing i’d be able to give you quotes on how god wants freedom of expression and show you how God never mentions abortion.”

    The last refuge of a liberal is to also claim something that is not true and then proceed as if it is fact. The 10 Commandments are pretty well known and in them it states that one shall not murder. From the moment of conception that child is alive, we’ve been through this several times on this site and if you want us to go through the biological definition of “life” and prove this to you I am sure someone will be happy to chase this argument from your arsenal.

    The Bible is actually quite clear. The fact that you claim “If i had read the bible” demonstrates that you haven’t so you should stay away from assuming what it says.

  13. Noel on May 16th, 2008 4:25 pm

    K, i admit that my comment was not very well written. My points are still valid though. You are right that i should stay away from interpreting the Bible and what it says and stay with logic. Although then again, have you read the Qur’an? If you havent, then i dont think youre qualified either to comment on what Islamic religion means. Besides, although im not religious, i still believe in many religious morals. I dont care if Jesus is the son of god or not, and i dont believe that the story of creation is perfect, but i do believe that the morals of a religion is what people of all religions should truly preach. Examples of the morals are: You shall not steal, you shall not murder, love thy enemy, and other core messages from the religion. Are you really certain radical Islams believe that they have to kill indefils? Im pretty sure you are misinterpreting something there, and anyway, that is one of the reasons why radical islam is bad, they go away from their morals to convince people to achieve their goals. The morals of Islam is probably a good message. But religion is too easy to spin to a bad message, its happened time and time again in our history. Onto abortion, i dont have a strong viewpoint one way or the other on it. I think that you guys have points and we, the liberals, have points. Say that the child is going to be born into a terrible financial situation and his birth is likely to make the family starve. The child will not be happy and will make his family unhappy. Is it moral to let the child live and make him/her to be punished to those terrible conditions? Or is it moral to kill the unborn child, which is essentially killing a human being in your opinion? It’s a difficult question. Also, what about animals? If you guys think that an unborn baby is a developed life, then shouldn’t you guys be on the forefront of animal rights, because animals are much more developed than the baby is before it’s born. Then if that’s true, isn’t taking away the egg of an unborn chicken immoral? Or is a human a superior life form that will develop into something much more advanced than a chicken or a cat? It’s a hard question. I don’t know the answer, and i hope you consider this.

    PS: If you see that this comment is more polite and thoughtful than my other comment, then that is because your comment was more thought out and intelligent than the story was. My reaction to the article was that this guy’s insane, but your comment seemed to address valid points with a plausible mind set.

  14. LibertarianPrince (Moderator) on May 16th, 2008 6:13 pm

    Noel on May 16th, 2008 4:25 pm:

    “Although then again, have you read the Qur’an? If you havent, then i dont think youre qualified either to comment on what Islamic religion means.”

    This is sort of like saying sure I stole a car but you took a cookie after being offered. You are trying to say that because you don’t know what the Bible says, that when I listen to what the followers of radical Islam say, such as that it is their duty to kill the infidels, that I should not take that knowledge and understand it.

    You will also note that I was very clear in addressing my grievances against only “radical Islam”. So please put down the strawman because I am not going to let you set that one up to knock it down and claim victory.

    You’ve got a lot to learn. It might behoove you to sit back and learn rather than continue to try and argue beyond your qualifications to do so.

  15. J.J. Jackson (Admin) on May 16th, 2008 6:18 pm

    LibertarianPrince (Moderator) on May 16th, 2008 6:14 am:

    “we fought a war to end slavery”

    Dear, oh dear. I have to correct you slightly here LP. We didn’t end slavery in America. We just ended slavery based on one group forcing another into slavery. Slavery is still legal, according to the Constitution, as a punishment for a crime.

    Amendment 13:
    “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”

  16. J.J. Jackson (Admin) on May 16th, 2008 6:21 pm

    Noel on May 15th, 2008 8:47 pm:

    “Thirdly, you can make the bible say anything if you want it too. ”

    Really. Let’s test that theory. Here are some things that the Bible cannot be made to say and thus proving this statement false.

    “The Jews are unclean beasts that should be exterminated.”
    “The 9th commandment says you should eat poo poo.”
    “It is ok to covet what other people have and institute governments to take it for you.”
    “And God spoketh and said ‘Eat my shorts!’”
    “Eh, you know that whole honor thy mother and father thingy? Fuhgetaboutit!”

    The intelligence of the members of this site is far too high to fall for such obviously incorrect statements.

    This goes along LP’s suggestion that perhaps you should be careful about overstepping the bounds of your knowledge.

  17. Noel on May 17th, 2008 9:06 pm

    Sorry if i seemed to think you were against all Islamic people. i may have assumed that because the author of this article was. “A Muslim hates America, has no regard for its Constitution, its history and is an anarchist at heart।” You still aren’t qualified to interpret the Qu’ran from a couple of quotes from some extreme radical Islamics. That’s like interpreting the Bible from a couple of Reverend Wright’s quotes. About the Bible, it has been used to support many good and bad practices in the past, such as slavery, divine right of kings, the crusades, pretty much anything during the middle ages, and many more things. About slavery, did any southern sherrifs ever punish all the blacks in their city on a false charge to make them slaves legally? Im kind of curious.

  18. LibertarianPrince (Moderator) on May 18th, 2008 9:37 am

    Noel on May 17th, 2008 9:06 pm:

    “You still aren’t qualified to interpret the Qu’ran from a couple of quotes from some extreme radical Islamics. That’s like interpreting the Bible from a couple of Reverend Wright’s quotes.”

    Noel, these strawmen arguments of yours have got to stop. I never said I was interpreting the Qu’ran. I said I was interpreting the religion of those that follow “radical Islam”.

    So why don’t you just stop with the bullshit ok? You are not as smart as you think you are at trying to catch me and claim that because you stole a car (i.e. misinterpreted what the Bible said) that I somehow and wrong because I took a cookie when it was offered (i.e. was told what the radical Islamists thought by their own mouths).

    “About the Bible, it has been used to support many good and bad practices in the past, such as slavery, divine right of kings, the crusades, pretty much anything during the middle ages, and many more things. About slavery, did any southern sherrifs ever punish all the blacks in their city on a false charge to make them slaves legally? Im kind of curious.”

    Yes, and FYI Noel, those were liberal Democrats that did that, people who you seem to have a lot in common with based on you misplaced beliefs about the Constitution. (see other thread where you discuss 1st amendment).

    I see you have now moved on from your wrong statement about how the Bible can say anything to the more mundane excuse of some idiots have used it to justify anything.

    FYI, and since you have never read the Bible apparently, the Bible does indeed support slavery – but only as punishment for a crime in as much as you owe a debt for a wrong done that must be repaid.

    When you get beyond these sophomoric tactics let me know.

  19. WhiteWomen on May 27th, 2008 5:44 pm

    If there are non-hating Muslims out there why are they NOT denouncing the ugly radicals. How can the so called nice Muslims stand by and stay quiet? Is cold blooded murder okay with the nice Muslims???????????????????????????????????????????

  20. travis smith on June 2nd, 2008 4:25 pm

    if i did what obama has said ‘done & ran with his friends done what he hads written in his book& went to his church for 20 yrs and told the people what he is now saying about having change He also said we have the greatest nation on earth ‘ and he intends TO CHANGE IT? TOO WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!? I know the answer & you can beiieve i shall do every thing in my power to stop this miscreant!!!!!!!!!!

  21. FactCheck on June 11th, 2008 3:09 am

    The author of this article has misquoted his subject to make the quote appear more damning that it really is.

    The full quote is at:
    http://righttruth.typepad.com/right_truth/2008/02/i-will-stand-wi.html

    Now that Swank has exposed himaelf as someone who will wilfully distort facts to try to pursuage, what intelligent person will find that pursuasive?

  22. J.J. Jackson on June 11th, 2008 5:56 pm

    FactCheck,

    If you would have bothered to READ the comments you might have seen that this was already discussed!

    And it is one of the reasons why we no longer publish Grant Swanks columns!

  23. los on June 12th, 2008 1:50 pm

    For those of you using Obama’s so-called sympathy towards the Muslims to imply that he doesn’t love America, I ask you this: Do you know how many times George Bush and his father and Bill Clinton had friendly talks with Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Jordan, Indonesia, Pakistan? Have you even seen the photos of the sheiks and the prince and kings in the middle east almost holding hands with our presidents for the past 20 years? I think you better rethink your logic “Obama likes muslim= Obama hates America”

  24. Busterroo on June 14th, 2008 9:30 am

    You can always tell when a liberal “gut” reacts to a title like Paul did. Grant said in his title that Obama will stand with Muslims and then Paul launched into full reaction mode by starting out with:

    “The full quote from page 261 of “The Audacity of Hope” is below if anyone cares to read it.”

    He provides the quote at the end:

    “Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

    But Grant provided this quote in the very first paragraph of his commentary!

    “In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

    Although he did forget a couple “…”s for things he excluded. I wonder if Paul even read the post or if he is just one of Obama’s loyal shock troops sent out to do combat with anyone that dares challenge the messiah.

  25. Frank W on June 19th, 2008 12:09 pm

    “Governor Ryan today signed Senate Bill 750 creating the ‘Halal Food Act” This bill seems a little strange to me if we are going to keep religion out of our goverment. Will we have a law that will provide for a Rabbi, Priest, and Baptist minister inspecting food also? We may be making Grits wrong in our food industry. Why don’t the politicians leave things alone and it would still be like it was. Believe what you want and if somebody is doing something you don’t like don’t participate. We have so many laws now we could all be breaking one at this moment and not know it. Leave the muslims alone, when you find one doing something that is againest the law have him pay the price like any other citizen.

  26. Starchy on August 22nd, 2008 1:26 am

    Hey red states!!
    Your comments above are hilarious.

    So much mis-information, propoganda and smear in one place.

    Guess you must be REALLY scared that a black man actually has a chance..

    Here is my take:

    Its red team vs blue team.
    Does not matter who the “captains” are.

    Red team had full control and screwed us royally.

    For the first time in our history, invaded a foreign country without provocation.

    Brought shame and disgrace to this great nation of ours.

    Raided our national treasury for personal gain.

    Fostered ill will all over the free world.

    Emboldened our enemies.

    Destabilized our economy.

    Its abundantly clear GWB is not on the right side of the Lord after all.

    Think of all the poor innocent brown people lying dead in the desert, their blood on the hands of the NeoCons that YOU elected.

    So guess what. Now its blue teams turn.

    God Bless BARRACK OBAMA 08

    A soldier of peace in a war against evil.

  27. LibertarianPrince (Moderator) on August 22nd, 2008 6:01 am

    Talk about “disinformation”! It is coming from you Starchy!

    “Guess you must be REALLY scared that a black man actually has a chance..”

    His race has nothing to do with it. Only person here mentioning race is you so you are the one focused on race. This site constantly discusses his horrid policies, not his race.

    “Its red team vs blue team.
    Does not matter who the “captains” are.”

    It never has to the Marxists. They will just vote for the biggest Marxist.

    “Red team had full control and screwed us royally.”

    Really? Might want to take a gander at who has controlled Congress for the last two years which coincidentally is the same time that oil prices began shooting up and the economy started to falter. Might also want to look at the previous administration who kicked off the subprime lending fiasco with their policies.

    “For the first time in our history, invaded a foreign country without provocation.”

    I guess it depends on what your definition of “provocation” is. If threating the United States directly and fomenting terrorist acts for over a decade against the west is not “provocation” I don’t know what is.

    “Brought shame and disgrace to this great nation of ours.”

    No, “shame” and “disgrace” has been brought by Barack’s fellow travelers who voted for war and then have done everything in the world to help us loose the war. In addition you have people like John Murtha who slander our solders.

    “Raided our national treasury for personal gain.”

    You’re thinking about the Democrats here. They have been doing that since the 1920s. Take a look.

    “Fostered ill will all over the free world.”

    Liberal talking point.

    “Emboldened our enemies.”

    No, you are thinking about liberal Democrats again. Which is why when terrorists speak about who they prefer as President they say Obama.

    “Destabilized our economy.”

    Liberal’s and their socialist ideas did that.

    “Its abundantly clear GWB is not on the right side of the Lord after all.”

    It is abundantly clear that you have a talking point memo in you hand.

    “Think of all the poor innocent brown people lying dead in the desert, their blood on the hands of the NeoCons that YOU elected.”

    What “NeoCons”? NeoCons are liberals who embrace some of the Constitution but still believe in big government spending. Almost everyone of the regular members here believe in no such thing. If you read the site you would learn how utterly stupid this comment is.

    Second, it is just like a liberal to believe that liberating people is a bad thing. For the most part those dead “brown people” are former Saddam loyalists and terrorists.

    “So guess what. Now its blue teams turn.”

    They have had their turn time and again with control for actually much of the 20th century. All we have gotten for it is a welfare state of epic proportions and people like yourself that cannot make a coherant and fact based argument.

    “God Bless BARRACK OBAMA 08″

    God does not bless people that violate his basic commandments against coveting what others have, taking what they have by government force for the benefit of others (stealing) and murdering innocent life (supporting abortion).

    OOPS! We’ve wondered off the talking point memo and now you have to actually think about these responses to your ramblings.

  28. Loran Hatfield on August 25th, 2008 2:30 am

    To answer the question as to why Non-Radical Muslims don’t denounce the belief of Radical Islam is quite simple. They do. As a soldier in Iraq, I have seen it first hand. The problem is that you are so misinformed as to the situation in Iraq that you would not know an IED from a hole in the ground. The media sells sensationalisms. Hate to tell you an imam denouncing Radical Islam is not sensationalist, so it will not make the six o’clock or even the eleven o’clock news. Radical Islam is nothing more than a few imams who took the Quran out of context and used the fact that the illiteracy rates in Iraq and other Mid Eastern countries is low. If you go to a mosque and hear the imam teaching hate, how are you to know the difference? You can not read the Quran to get your own opinion. Obama’s quotes have been taken out of context and blown out of proportion. In the event that he is Muslim, which I do not believe, Islam teaches love and respect for all persons, even non-believers of Islam (nay sayers be advised- I am speaking of contemporary Islam, not Radical Islam.)

  29. LibertarianPrince (Moderator) on August 25th, 2008 5:54 am

    Loran Hatfield on August 25th, 2008 2:30 am:

    “Obama’s quotes have been taken out of context and blown out of proportion.”

    Once again I will reprint Obama’s full quote here. It contains several self-serving lies and misrepresentations of history.

    “Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

    To start with, his attempt to portray America as this deeply xenophobic nation where all sorts of “detentions” and “hard stares” where being visited upon people who even looked like they might be Muslim in the wake of 9/11 is false. People have been looking high and low for rampant behavior like this and have found a handful of cases where people were treated as such.

    Second, he attempts to throw in the internment of the Japanese during WWII which I would like to remind everyone was done by someone that he admires … FDR.

  30. Tiger on September 23rd, 2008 1:46 am

    To LibertarianPrince: I have not ‘looked high and low’ for cases of Muslim targeting and American interning but…I found more than ‘a handful of cases’ of ill behavior by Americans on Americans (whose faith was Muslim)…and… I also found that America has detained Japanese, Germans, Aleutians, Solomons, et al…and a host of other non-Americans illegally (under American and International Laws) via the Bush Administration.

    Do I have better eyesight?

  31. LibertarianPrince (Moderator) on September 23rd, 2008 5:43 am

    Yet you give no examples. “Just Words”.

  32. BlackCon on September 23rd, 2008 5:32 pm

    Michelle Malkin talked about how many of these so-called incidents of “hate crimes” against Muslims are fake. Here.

    Of course real incidents of crime – regardless of motive should be prosecuted. But what happened after 9/11 was any time a Muslim was the victim of a violent crime it was often a good assumption that it would be claimed as a “hate crime” even if the fact the victim was Muslim was irrelevant.

    In 2001 there were 481 incidents listed as “hate crimes” against Muslims. That means, if every single one were an actual “hate crime” this is about 1.7X10-4% of the population involved in such an act. Hardly worth condeming America over.

    The statement by Obama was classic fear mongering and political pandering and nothing more.

  33. nick on October 14th, 2008 3:09 pm

    I was in a grocery store this year at easter time. It was holy Saturday the day before easter. Well her is what took place. The store was very crowded I shop there regulary and a large number of Muslims also sop at this store. I was standing in the checkout line when this Muslim woman cut right in front of me. I said excuse me the end of the line is back there. She said I was here first I was in front of you first. And she said this in a loud voice so everyone could here. All of a sudden every Muslim was stareing a hole right through me. I said mame I have been satnding here for 5 minutes I never saw you. She was clearly trying to make a scene. I finally said mame you go right ahead I am not in a hurry, tomorrow is Easter and Jesus has risen have a nice day. She and a few other Muslims almost hit the floor. I just smiled. It was great!

  34. Ark on November 5th, 2008 8:47 pm

    Tiger on September 23rd, 2008 1:46 am

    “I have not ‘looked high and low’ for cases of Muslim targeting and American interning but…I found more than ‘a handful of cases’ of ill behavior by Americans on Americans (whose faith was Muslim}”

    305,586,080 is the current estimated population of the united states as of today from the Census Bureau Home page. 481 cases even if they all were because “dem damn muslims drove planes into our buildins” and provided each case involved one ‘extremely patriotic american’. You can factor 481 into our population 635314.0956 times. Now figure out the volume which your hand can hold(handful) vs the size of your body (population of US) and i’m sure we’ll come to the conclusion its much larger than 1/635314. Thanks have a nice day.

    Oh, and by the way, if you want to argue that these incidents involved more than one person, go ahead and assume that 20 people were involved and were still looking at 1/31765. Again, have a nice day.

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