RSSAbiotic Oil Theory: The Bane of Enviro-Marxists
J.J. Jackson* | February 8, 2008 |
What would happen if it were proven that “fossil fuels” weren’t the result of decaying plant and animal matter, were actually created within the Earth due to simple chemistry and you could not be scared into believing that we were “running out” of oil and natural gas? Why, you would have a lot of people who are banking on that strategy to convince you to accept government control and mandates over how energy is used going back to square one and looking for another way to institute a populist, socialist agenda.
Scientists who have confirmed that abiotic hydrocarbons are being released from the Lost City hydrothermal field in the Mid-Atlantic range at the bottom of the ocean say they are returning to that location this summer to try to confirm the presence of more complex hydrocarbon chains, a result that would further undermine the assumption that oils are the result of decomposed and compressed organisms.”We looked for C1-C4 hydrocarbons – alkanes, alkenes and alkynes – and detected them all,” Giora Proskurowski, the marine geochemist who headed the Woods Hole team that already has done work at the Lost City site, told WND in an e-mail.
“Last year we did not look for more advanced hydrocarbon chains, but this year we will use the sampling methods required to identify more complex hydrocarbons,” he said.
As WND reported, Proskurowski, of the School of Oceanography at the University of Washington in Seattle, wrote in Science Magazine that Lost City vents at the bottom of the Atlantic were exuding abiotic hydrocarbons formed in the mantle of the earth.
Proskurowski attributed the formation of the observed hydrocarbons to processes identified by the Fischer-Tropsch type (FTT) equations first discovered by Nazi German scientists trying to generate synthetic oil from coal prior to the start of World War II.
Think this is all wishful thinking? You would be right to be skeptical. It’s healthy to be so. But let’s give you a little bit of supporting evidence for the abiotic theory that you might not know about:
The organic theory of the origin of oil suffered a major blow when NASA announced a probe sent to the surface of Titan, the giant moon of Saturn, had discovered Titan was full of Carbon-13 methane.Carbon-13 is the isotope of carbon associated with abiotic generation, compared to carbon-12 which is generally associated with organic origins.
So unless you can come up with evidence that at one time there was life on Titan, those hydrocarbons had to come from somewhere. You an put 2 and 2 together and get the right answer. But if you choose to believe that its 5 (i.e. that “fossil fuels” are only created from “dead things”) that is your own ignorant choice.
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How long until we get a Global Warming nutcase disciple of Gore here telling us how wrong we are?
Still waiting … been a while. Yet no takers. Guess the facts on this one have just proven to be too much for their frail brains to handle.
Hehe, stupidity of conservatives (be it american or soviet) tend to be on similar grand scale.
Okay, dear idiots, proof of the pudding err.. oil is in pumping it out. Care to give an example of functioning abiotic oil field? Thus far all have been quite in accordance to biotic oil theory, be they in Texas, Middle East or Russia. Yup, even those couple of silly small supposed “successes” in Russia are explained as biotic (by american oil scientists by the way).
Doen’t your claim sort of revolve around the pure assumption that abiotic oil doesn’t exist. Doesn’t that fly in the face of the evidence posted above?
First, the “soviets” were not conservatives. They were liberals/Marxists. But yes, they were stupid.
Second, the strawman you have set up here is that there are no functioning abiotic oil fields because oil is not created by abiotic processes therefore, low and behold, there are no functioning abiotic fields. The problem is that you are assuming (and making an ass of yourself in doing so) that oil is not created by abiotic processes and thus there are no abiotic oil fields. You are creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.
However it is proven that hydrocarbons are created by means other than the theory that decaying animal and plant matter are the source. The chemistry is actually quite simple.
Eric, you are right. His claim is based solely on his own claim that it doesn’t happen. So that means that he can make the claim and think he is smart.
The whole theory of where oil comes from (meaning dead plants and animals) is almost completely unbelievable.
According to Heh’s theory of choice, we can stop looking for life on other planets because since hydrocarbons are only produced from decaying animal matter that means that Titan was once teeming with life.
Many times people will focus on the existence of Carbon 12 or Carbon 13 in the hydrocarbons as the determining factor of a hydrocarbon’s origin. However that is a false claim. Since the origin of oil has never been shown to come from organic matter (it is only surmised as such) it is impossible to claim that whether it is C-12 or C-13 is the determinant of its origin. The abiotic theory does not deny that living organisms do contribute to the creation of abiotic oil by providing the carbon necessary for the process just like biologists do not deny that the minerals in the foods we eat contribute to our bodies as they grow. Please remember that.
For example, C-12 which is organic can be converted to hydrocarbons by the same processes which create it from C-13. The process doesn’t care what kind of Carbon it is and since C-12 is generally considered “organic” carbon and “organic” carbon is very ubiquitous, it would be natural to see it in abiotically generated oil. But if you believe that C-12 is a sign of organic hydrocarbons then you would be guilty of misreading science much as the flat Earthers misread science to determine that the Earth was not round or that scientists once misread the clear evidence of the sun centered solar system to justify an Earth centered one.
Scientists thought out time have made such bad predictions to conform findings to their own predetermined ideas.
No matter how much the believers in peak oil protest they get antsy every time a new field and new deposits of oil are found. They keep saying “Peak Oil!” but we keep finding billions and billion of barrels more. That certainly doesn’t indicate anything near a “peak”.
But don’t confuse them with the facts.
The only reason we have something even close to “peak oil” is because bureaucrats keep telling oil companies they cannot access known and proven reserves. Thus our oil production has “peaked”. But it is an artificial peak.
There are four categories of things “scientists” know:
First is the things they actually know.
Second is the things they think they know and happen to actually know despite never having observed them and poorly contrived experiments (aka blind luck).
Third is he things they think they know but really don’t know and are wrong about but think they really do know because a theory on a piece of paper that sounds good tells them that it must be true.
Fourth is the things they have no idea about.
The total sum of all things in each of the last two categories alone are many times greater than all the things in the first two categories combined.
On your topic LP of how people can be lead to believe things that aren’t true when they really want to believe them …
Hey, I know, I’ll claim that the sun will not rise tomorrow unless I beat this drum and I won’t beat this drum unless people pay me $1,000,000 every day. Now some people will naturally believe me and pay me and I will beat the drum and the sun will rise and they will believe that it was my beating of the drum that caused the event.
Those people that didn’t pay will point their fingers and mock those that did. Those that paid will denounce those laughing at them by saying that since they paid and the sun rose that their paying made the sun rise. And most likely they will also want to institute a tax on those that are mocking them because … well … why should those people get the benefit of their actions that they are paying for?!?! It’s not fair! They shouldn’t bear all the burden of paying me to beat the drum and make the sun come up.
However that doesn’t explain why the sun rose. It just happens to be two events that happened one before the other.
Hey … I think I just found the topic for this week’s article! Thanks LP!
“Since the origin of oil has never been shown to come from organic matter (it is only surmised as such) it is impossible to claim that whether it is C-12 or C-13 is the determinant of its origin.”
I should clarify this by saying that the origin of large deposits of oil in the ground has never been shown to come from simply the decomposition and treatment of animal matter.
Abiotic oil … http://www.rense.com/general63/staline.htm
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Abiotic oil: http://oilismastery.blogspot.com/
A True Conservative is a Thomas Jefferson Classical Liberal, who said, leave me alone, leave my money and property alone, and demands individual rights…and will not accede to becoming any part of a socialist/marxist/fascist where the individual becomes a “DISPOSABLE TOOL OF THE STATE.”
It is only the INCREDIBLE IGNORANCE OF THE LEFT AND THEIR HAIR-BRAINED LACK OF EDUCATION and attempts at cheap propaganda…that the Left continues to cunt-fuse a True Conservative with Marxism of any type. Why do we have this problem of mis-identification?…Because Public Schools are now propaganda factories run by the Left to indoctrinate children on the same level as Marxist and Communist dictatorships….
There simply has to be a massive “re-education” campaign in the US …in which True Conservativism is explained well…but that religion of any kinds is NOT a part of any True Conservative philosophy.
I particularly am pissed off that the “religious” nut cases, and Taliban Christians invaded my Conservative movement, and tried to claim it as their own…forcing True Conservatives by association to adopt their religious agendas.
As a matter of historical FACT (something backed up by evidence and proof, and not someone’s opinion de jure)…the founders of the United States were Classical Liberals, which are today’s True Conservatives (who “conserve” i.e. save the US Bill of Rights created by Classical Liberals), which includes “No religious domination or control or special rights for the religious of any kind in our laws.
In fact, the founders of the US were “functional atheists” who only acceded to using the word “Creator” because in the 15th and 16th Century and the Age of Enlightenment(read your history)…the word “Creator” meant “Nature,”….and NOT the god of the Hebrews or Christians. Thomas Jefferson especially was a “scientist” who also called himself an “Epicurean”…as one who makes decisions by what is real, and by what is exampled by “nature,” and not someone’s imaginary god or “belief.” The definition of the word “belief” by the way…is to “claim something is true without any proof or evidence.” Jefferson did not believe in “belief.” Belief was a function of the “church” and witch doctors and those who believed in supernatural states.
The founders of the US were all too aware of the bloody history of the Christians, who burned, tortured, murdered and stole property from those who didn’t believe in their imaginary god from the very beginning of the Christian church. (Read your history). The founders were also students of the bible and knew that there were more than 100 verses which said: “kill the infidels and nonbelievers, and those who are not like you; rape their wives, slit the bellies of their pregnant women, and murder their children.”
Don’t believe me? Go to: http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm…. and read the bible verses yourself. These bible verses have been used to justify murder in the past by the religious, and could be used again by the Christians if they ever gain enough power over the US government to impose religious law on this country…Knowing the bible inside and out, the founders of the US…said Not No!…but Hell No! Not on our watch, and in our new country are we going to have religious domination. The founders were NOT going to have another repeat of all the massacres, torture, and murders prevalent in Europe, because of the “Church.” So a True Conservative, is a Thomas Jefferson et al Classical Liberal.
Who are most often the “Liberals” of today? Socialists, neoMarxists, and Fascists…who want to control you and every aspect of your life, money, property, and “thoughts”…and make you a DISPOSABLE TOOL OF THE STATE. And where did these so-called Liberals come from? In the 1960s, the Marxists infiltrated those who called themselves Liberals and co-opted the name and changed the definitions of many words that appear on the outside to be “fair” but upon closer examination, the Leftist Vocabulary and meanings are right out of the “Communist Manifesto.” For example: Paying “your fair share”…means the government has the right, says the Left, to take any and all money you earn…and give it to those who didn’t earn it or don’t deserve it, without your permission. This is socialism/communism.
So the next time you use the word Conservative as an epithet…be reminded that you are just another unthinking, brainless, uneducated stooge of the Left and have no Fing idea what you are talking about.
Diana Wilson PhD
Diana, I will ask you only once to please read “the rules” before commenting. You posted two back to back comments which had absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this posting which is the Abiotic Theory of oil. That is a big no-no.
Wow Diana you have a PhD. And still you don’t believe all this amazing world we live in was created by a being who did not even have a degree.
your educated stupidity amazes me.