RSSRon Paul’s Hand Found In the Cookie Jar
J.J. Jackson* | August 7, 2007
Looks as though Ron Paul is not the good little Constitutional Libertarian he and his supporters would like us to believe. And it looks like it is time once again for me to get out my stick and poke the lemming like Paul supporters.
After reporters started asking questions, the Congressman disclosed his requests this year for about $400 million worth of federal funding for no fewer than 65 earmarks. They include such urgent national wartime priorities as an $8 million request for the marketing of wild American shrimp and $2.3 million to fund shrimp-fishing research.
Oops. Obviously a hit piece by the vast neo-con conspiracy! Ron Paul would NEVER do that! RAAAHHHHGGG!
Looks like Paul’s got some ‘splainin to do as to how he is really a libertarian. I am certain his spin machine in the form of thousands of loyal internet followers will give it their best shot.
Some more of the unconstitutional Paul earmark requests include (courtesy of http://freestudents.blogspot.com):
$25,000 for the Brazoria County Sheriff to establish a “Children’s Identification and Location Database.”
No authority in Article I, Section 8 for this spending.
$8 million for the marketing of wild American shrimp
No authority in Article I, Section 8 for this spending.
$3 million to “secure the acquisition of the McGinnes tract, protecting its critical natural resources and helping consolidate refuge inholdings.”
No authority in Article I, Section 8 for this spending.
$5 million to expand the cancer center at Brazosport Hospital.
No authority in Article I, Section 8 for this spending.
$200,000 for the Matagorda Episcopal Health Outreach Program to fund a “National Health Service Corp Scholar.”
No authority in Article I, Section 8 for this spending.
$100,000 for a “data-driven automated system for nursing students on the Texas Gulf Coast.”
No authority in Article I, Section 8 for this spending.
$257,000 to “prepare graduates from the doctoral program at the University of Texas Medical Branch School of Nursing to assume faculty roles in schools for nursing with a deficient number of doctoral level faculty.”
No authority in Article I, Section 8 for this spending.
$2 million to buy buses for Galveston.
No authority in Article I, Section 8 for this spending.
And, if you doubt me on this here is the exact text of Article I, Section 8:
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
To establish Post Offices and post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;
To declare War, grant Letters of Marquee and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;–And
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
Now, SOME of these earmarks are constitutional like those that deal with roads and highways (if they can be shown to be specifically “post roads” that is) but I have to emphatically say shame on Ron Paul. And I’ll give out a preemptive “shame” on all the lemming Ron Paul spinsters out there that are sure to try and excuse these sorts of things from a supposed man of principle with Chomsky-like word smithing. All we hear from the Paulites is how Ron Paul is the only candidate that upholds the Constitution and then we find out the truth; that he is nothing more than a political hack.Unconstitutional spending is unconstitutional spending. Period.
So keep the Paulites away from the purple Kool Aid! But aside from the fact that there might be some Ron Paul supporters who truly believed he was “the one” slitting their wrists and committing suicide at their illusions being shattered, I have to say that the wheels, which were only held on by duct tape to begin with, have officially fallen off the Ron Paul bus.
How about a Howard Dean like “RAAAAHR” from our Paulites? I know you are out there!
Ron Paul’s new campaign slogan? He was against earmarks before he was for them!
Ron Paul wishes to thank John Kerry for coaching him and teaching him the ways of Washington.
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Ouch … can’t wait to hear all the spin from the Paulites on this one! Let me get a chair and a beer and I’m just going to sit back and watch the show.
Me too LP. I just want to watch the Paulites self-destruct.
Me three then I guess
This is shameful. I am officially pulling my support of Mr. Paul. This man is no libertarian.
Luckily, my support of Ron Paul is based on his overall record and positions, not on the idea that he has an absolutely perfect voting record. You seem to have the idea that his supporters will suddenly despair if you point out some flaw - as if these earmarks were in any way comparable in scale or damage to the government programs supported by the other Republican candidates.
I will not make any excuses for Mr. Paul. I’ve supported him to the hilt until now but he has betrayed all true libertarians with this shameful exercise in political pandering.
I am going out right now and ripping my Ron Paul bumper sticker off my SUV. I am ashamed to have ever supported him and believed his lies.
Yet another do as I say, not as I do politician. I agree!
SHAME on you Ron Paul! SHAME!
Just withdraw now and spare those of us that have supported you the pain of defending this type of BULL SHIT!
What a didscusting hit piece. SHAME on you Mr. Jackson!
The truth is the truth Douggie. Don’t shoot the messenger because you don’t like it. I am also withdrawing my support of this bogus Constitutionalist and am adding my voice to the chorus.
SHAME!
If Ron Paul had any support to speak of this might be noteworthy. But since the man is usually not much more than an asterisk (meaning less than 1%) it doesn’t matter much.
Question is now how long until Paul’s supporters call for him to be impeached. Or will Paul surprise us all and impeach himself?
Virulent Fem on August 7, 2007 6:06 pm:
“Question is now how long until Paul’s supporters call for him to be impeached. Or will Paul surprise us all and impeach himself?”
You’re joking. The justification and the spinning has already begun.
It’s ok though. Because the truth is that when it all boils down to it Paulites can no longer say that Ron is different than the other “conservatives” that are running. He is exactly the same.
This is the money line of the above article:
“Ron Paul’s new campaign slogan? He was against earmarks before he was for them!”
@ Evelin Jones:
How do you get stickers off?!?!?!? I want to take my off too!
I’m surprised. Usually the Paul shock troops respond in under an hour.
back @ Mylar King
Try a hair dryer set on high. Will take a while but it will start to bubble and peel in about 10 minutes.
Anything to help former Paul supporters disown their ex-candidate.
Jonesin for Cola on August 7, 2007 6:16 pm:
“I’m surprised. Usually the Paul shock troops respond in under an hour.”
They’re comparing notes … they want to make sure they have their lies straight.
Bye-bye Ron Paul button! Where’s my shredder?
Now THAT is an implosion! Paul goes down in a blaze of hypocrisy!
He treid to have his cake and eat it too. He put in for the earmarks and then voted against the bill knowing full well it would pass.
It certainly was ballsy!
“keep the Paulites away from the purple Kool Aid!”
ROFL! They are scrambling for the suicide juice!
“I’m surprised. Usually the Paul shock troops respond in under an hour.”
There’s too much activity for them. They don’t like to get involved in tit for tat with the members here because the members here are smarter than you average Paul supporter or members of other blogs.
Too much activity so too much chance for confrontation. They will do what they normally do. Wait for the initial flurry to end, start trickling in and make the bulk of their comments between 10 PM and 3 AM Eastern when they know most people are doing other things.
Well I was leaning towards Paul because I thought he was the real deal. Now he’s off my radar.
Unconstitutional spending is unconstitutional spending. Period.
Ain’t it da truth! Paul thy name is hypocrisy!
Thanks! Hair dryer worked!
Well, Paul has jsut solidified his position as an asterisk in 2008.
I’ve been warning people about this coming for months now. Lots of disappointed faces in the Paul chatrooms and on the Paul blogs.
Lots and lots of spin too but it doesn’t seem to be playing well.
A predictable hit piece. Anyone who’s followed Paul for more than a couple months has already heard the earmark issue mentioned. To anyone new to this, note the timing of this article. It’s been dredged up _again_ just in time for the Iowa caucuses. While these hypocrites are busy calling Paul two-faced for trying to get his constituents back the money the fed has taken from them, do yourself a favor and compare his record against that of any of the other GOP’ers running. You’ll find these Giuliani supporters have a lot of explaining to do if they wish to be called conservative, let alone critique Paul.
On another note, I wonder how many of the “I was a Paul supporter but no longer” posters here are fake? For instance, the poster “Douggie”, with the child-like name and poor spelling who is immediately followed by a post ridiculing him. I wonder if responder and respondee are the same person. Never put deception past a big-government, fifth-columnist neocon.
That’s right, nothing EVER bad can be said about Paul! ANd anyone that claims to be someone that did support Paul before becoming aware of his unconstitutional spending habits MUST be fake.
It’s easier to live in a land of make believe than real life.
You Paul supporters are good at the conspiracy theories. But how about a little proof?
“I wonder if responder and respondee are the same person.”
Different IPs from different states. Highly unlikely.
Now would like like to apologize? Or are you just going to be a typical ass like many of the Paul supporters that come here?
The lemmings that follow Paul around and hang on his every do as I say not as he does word would follow him off a cliff if he lead them there. He could take off a mask and be shown to be Hillary Clinton and they would still vote for him, uh I mean her?
JTaverner on August 7, 2007 7:11 pm:
“Never put deception past a big-government, fifth-columnist neocon.”
Never put idiocy past a blind follower of Ron Paul either.
JT sounds awful bitter. Can’t justify the unconstitutional spending so attack, attack, ATTACK!
Doesn’t matter. Paul’s support is less than 1% among the right. That’s what really eats at them.
J.J. Jackson on August 7, 2007 7:32 pm:
“Now would like like to apologize?”
Idjuts like that never say they are sorry. They are too busy pulling crap out of their asses hoping for something to stick!
FYI I also love how idjuts lik JT complain about the spelling of others and then use made up words like “respondee”. Kind of hurts their cred.
I can asure this JT fellow who is struggling to find more than a couple active brain cells to rub together that his theories (poorly contrived ones at that) are false.
Now call me a liar to my face.
I know, having been among the Paul supporters that they are like a cult. Even breathe a less that sparkling word about Mr. Paul and they get glassy eyed and foam at the mouth. Doesn’t matter if it is true … first rule among those supporting Paul is that THOU SHALT NOT DEFAME PAUL!
HA!
Every time I hear one of these acolytes of Paul defend him I keep thinking of Reggie Jackson in the Naked Gun. They’re all like:
“I … must serve … the Paul.”
ROFL! Good one PM!
Look! I can be a Ron Paul supporter. Maybe I can blend in!
“I … must serve … the Paul.”
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“I … must serve … the Paul.”
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“I … must serve … the Paul.”
“I … must serve … the Paul.”
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“I … must serve … the Paul.”
The truth matters not.
There is no truth.
There is only Ron Paul.
Hail Ron Paul.
“All your earmarks are belong to Paul”?
They remind me most of all like the Borg. They run around parroting the same lines and are robotic.
“We are the Paul. Resistence is futile. You will be assimilated.”
I escaped a couple weeks ago when I first got wind of this and have never looked back.
Hearts are breaking and screams of “WHY PAUL WHY?” are resounding across the land.
Houses built upon quicksand will always sink, just a campaign built on myths and lies.
Libertarians need to do a better job of vetting our candidates. That’s out biggest downfall.
Ron Paul has betrayed me and he has betrayed America.
The idea that Ron Paul supporters would even try to justify spending money on shrimp as Constitutional shows them for the nuts they are.
Libertarians that support Ron Paul (even after this) are of the same stripe as liberals who just won’t admit that they are socialists in that they are denying who they really are. And they aren’t libertarians.
I just want to say, ever since you started using the term “Paulites” to describe Ron Paul’s supporters it has become much more commonplace around the net. A testimony to how many people actually read this site!
Wow! And they try to accuse Ron Paul supporters of being virtual… look at all the fake anti-Paul posters on this article!
Dr. No didn’t vote to raise taxes to pay for these items. Period. Get over it.
Dr. Paul talked about this on CNBC a while back. Catch up with the times, Jackson. Pay attention.
Tonewah on August 20, 2007 8:29 pm
“Wow! And they try to accuse Ron Paul supporters of being virtual… look at all the fake anti-Paul posters on this article!
Dr. No didn’t vote to raise taxes to pay for these items. Period. Get over it.
Dr. Paul talked about this on CNBC a while back. Catch up with the times, Jackson. Pay attention.”
I’ll respond with my own “Wow!” This is the only thing the Ron Paul jokers seem capable of doing is avoiding a direct discussion of the issues!
Whether he voted to raise taxes to pay for them on not does not matter when it comes to whether or not they are constitutional!
All I hear from the Paulites is whining!
You can call me a joker, or whatever you like. I think Ron Paul has the closest thing to American ideals I’ve seen in my life. I’m a real person and a middle class American. I think I deserve the liberties promised in the Constitution. If you know of another candidate who even CLAIMS to want a return to Constitutional conservatism, let me know.
You can email me anytime if you want to be more direct. I’m not hard to get in touch with.
This is hysterical. You come in and make a claim and avoid the facts like a good little Paulbot. Then someone takes you to task and you continue to ignore the facts.
Are you such a weak believer in the Constitution that you would throw your support behind someone who merely claims to believe in it even when they show you that they do not? Have you finished the Paul Kool Aid yet because there are other Paulbots wishing to partake of it.
Secondly, you will find that that most of the regulars here and particularly Jeff who you blindly attack in the defense of your self created savior (Ron Paul) are “real person”s , “middle class American”s and believe in “the liberties promised in the Constitution”. So get off your idiotic talking points.
You still cannot deal with the reality that many of Ron Paul’s earmarks are not Constitutional and violate the very beliefs he claims to hold.
I’m sure you would much rather that people email you in secret so you can avoid actually having to answer for such idiocy like that of your original post in public and been shown a fool.
Next time think twice before you make unfounded claims. But then again you are a Paulbot. So unfounded claims are your forte right?
Wow, again! Such anger…
Name-calling seems to be a pretty good character trait of those posting here. I just want to find out who would be best as President of the United States.
If anyone is interested in doing anything other than slamming people who back Ron Paul, here’s an article Dr. Paul wrote about earmarking.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul392.html
It scares me that people who I once stood beside in my conservatism now hurl venom at me.
Tonewah on August 22, 2007 9:58 am:
Wow, again! Such anger…
Name-calling seems to be a pretty good character trait of those posting here. I just want to find out who would be best as President of the United States.”
You know, it seems to me you are yet another Paul troll. You accuse others of “name-calling”? Yet you accuse people you don’t even know of being liars!
Let’s quote shall we?
Tonewah on August 20, 2007 8:29 pm:
“Wow! And they try to accuse Ron Paul supporters of being virtual… look at all the fake anti-Paul posters on this article!”
Yep, you REALLY have room to talk there boy-o.
Take your trolling to another site.
Maybe if the Ron Paul supporters would stopping spinning, lying and just being general jerks like you we wouldn’t need to “slam” them!
Bye-Bye.
Thank you for holding down the fort Ron, while I have been tending to my wife and our new baby. I see you have had your hands full with Paulbots like Tonewah in a couple threads but have done a good job weeding out the troublemakers.
I don’t know why these folks come here and say something, pretend to be victims when they are responded to in kind and then whine when they are punished for clear trolling. And yes, Tonewah has whined about being banned.
Just so Tonewah (and other Paulbots who act more like Noam Chomsky liberals than they do true libertarians in the way they twist words) you did indeed call people “liars” when you used the word “fake” to describe opinions that you did not like to hear and caused your overly sensitive ears to burn from the truth. Grab a thesaurus and look up the words “liars” and “fakes” or “fakers” and you will find that they have some of the same words for synonyms meaning they also mean the same thing and are interchangeable.
You may not have used the words “liars” directly but you did you a synonym in order to create a false impression, attempt to bolster your possition and create an argument (i.e. trolling). This is not a very “libertarian” thing to do. Action like yours are not to be tolerated here and it seems to be a familiar tactic by certain Ron Paul supporters when they can’t actually form a reasoned argument (i.e. they say something then claim they didn’t say it!).
I certainly do not have tolerance for liars here and I have given those people handling the site while I am indisposed permission to act in a manner appropriate (i.e. trolls are to be banned – end of story).
You can count this as a learning experience that when you lie you might be punished for the lie. As for your after the fact and half hearted apology couched in ifs and buts (not published and caught by the filters), perhaps you should have thought of that before you opened your mouth?
And all the crying, pissing and moaning about your “free speech” being infringed upon (you do know that only applies to the government right?) won’t make you any more right.
Tonewah, WE DO NOT NEED YOU IN THE RON PAUL MOVEMENT!
There I have said it. Grow up. No wonder you got punished and rightfully so!
Maybe if my fellow Ron Paul “supporters” would spend less time attacking people for the truth and more time asking Ron Paul to live up to the ideals we all believe he can we might get somewhere.
Tone”WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH” … an very aplicable name for you.
Ron Paul has two types of supporters. He has people that run around like Tonewah and complain every time someone else discusses Ron Paul with less than 100% enthusiasm and then he has people like me who are willing to say that he does have flaws and problems and admit to them.
Unfortunately, for us that are in the later group, those that are in the first and getting their undies in a bunch making huge stinks and are very vocal and giving the rest of us a bad rep.
I’ve met a couple people like Tonewah at some local Paul meetups. Generally they are just supporting Paul because of his anti-war stance and whenever you talk to them about other things from a libertarian point of view their eyes glaze over and all they want to do is talk about the war in Iraq which I actually support.
I’ve been called a “fascist” more than once but people who know nothing about me.
Someone mentioned that this habit of Paul’s for breaking the Constitution was well known. Ok in a sense it was. What I have been told by many of the the people that convinced me to support the man at first was not to worry and that when the facts came out everything he requested would be constitutional in nature. So even though I think he is dead incorrect on the war I supported the man.
Now I see I was lied to which was not the first time by those that convinced me to support Ron Paul I fear. Now there is no reason for me to support Ron Paul over other GOP candidates who are more in line with me on the issue of Iraq for example.
And yep, I got called a fascist when I told them I was dropping my support too.
Ron Paul people know the only chance they have of getting their candidate the nomination is to convince them that he is the most conservative. Of course he’s not. Many were willing to over look his isolationist (and frankly silly) world view in favor of what they thought was his best trait - constitutional adherence.
Now that’s over.
I’d say by the amount of time the average Ron Paul supporter I meet spends trashing Fred Thompson that he is the candidate they fear more than any other and probably for good reason.
“I’d say by the amount of time the average Ron Paul supporter I meet spends trashing Fred Thompson that he is the candidate they fear more than any other and probably for good reason.”
Let me clarify that because I think it came out a little odd. No sooner did I submit than that thought crossed in my mind.
I mean that I think Fred Thompson, pound for pound is more just as conservative as Ron Paul but with the added edge of being willing to take on terrorists and countries that threaten the United States and they know conservativs and libertarians find that appealing.
Harumph! Call me a “fake” Ron Paul supporter if you want since I see some others like to use that herring to try and dicredit anyone that would even whisper that Paul fucked up!
But he did fuck up! This is unacceptable behavior!
As for Tonwaeh and others who can’t handle that some of us who support Paul are actually capable of independent thought I wish to warn you that the harder you push back with frivilous arguments and defenses of Ron Paul like you have in this thread will only make people like Mr. Jackson push back twice as hard.
You keep giving him red meat! You keep justifying his use of terms like “Paulbots” &c. when you act just like he describes you will!
There is no justification for Paul’s actions here. There is no defense of it!
Sometimes I am embarrassed to be a Paul supporter.
It seems at times that Ron Paul’s supporters are completely off the wall (like Tonewah) but it is good to see that there are some reasonable ones in the bunch who don’t act like they are 4 years old and whine when they do something and get caught and don’t get their way.
That’s exactly why I said that sometimes I am embarrassed to be among them. I really think that the crankpots that Mr. Jackson calls “Paulbots” are the vast majority of people supporting him sometimes.
People like Tonewah are the reason I dropped my support for Paul. Neither they, nor Ron Paul for that matter it seems, have any real care for the truth and are just playing politics as usual trying to secure power.
That was what the “Revolution” was supposed to be against. But we see that it wasn’t.
OMG! Thank you so much Carrie for leading me to this site!
It is so refreshing to see that there are still some places on the net where those of us supporting Ron Paul but have the brains to disagree with him can go without being hounded by the nits of our group for having the gall to disagree with the “collective wisdom” I suppose you might call it :D.
Definately bookmarking this one!
Well, if some stupid little twat can use a clue char name to post here ad trash Ron Paul I guess I can use one too to tell her that she is nothing but retarded if she believes anything that is said on this site and is willing to ditch Paul for what she reads here!
Yet another “though provoking” and “intellectual” repsonse from someone that exemplifies what a “Paulbot” is.
And FYI, its Col. Mustard NOT Mr. Mustard!
Shutup you waste!
Ok, looks like someone is camping the thread. Let’s end this now before it goes any further.
Where’s my ban stick! Die troll!
Too bad prepubescent whiney babies can’t vote. Ron Paul might actually stand a chance if they could.
Can I use the word “embarrassed” again?
I was so appalled by this new that I called to try and get an explanation. His staffer fed me the same lines of B.S. that I have seen from others trying to defend him ie that he didn’t raise taxes (which means nothing from a constitutional stand point), that there was some loose interstate commerce component to the marketing of shrimp (sure there is), that he was just “passing them along” (BULL they are on HIS letterhead saying that HE is reuqesting them!), and lastly that he didn’t vote for them (BIG DEAL! He still requested them!).
When I told the staffer that I didn’t think I could support Mr. Paul any more she said “Oh, well” and hung up.
The next day my husband called to see if he could get a better answer and started by saying, “I know you have feilded some complaints” to which he was quickly told “Oh no sir, not a single one!”
Of course when he said that I had called and he knew I complained he called the staffer what he was, a liar and hung up. Now we’re both trying to decide who to support. But it will not be Ron Paul.
If I can be frank, those Paul boosters that act like Paul is the second coming and lie about their candidate (like with the whole military support BS) are like the drunk at the bar shooting his mouth off. At the end of the night he usually winds up face down in his own fliuds after getting a thorough ass whopping.
Another bad choice for libertarians to try and use as their poster boy. Ron Paul is not articulate and has problems vocalizing libertarian principles in more ways than one apparently.
I was supporting Paul, tentatively I admit, until this news broke. I’m just sick of the spin. I just want a politician that does what he says and doesn’t pull this kind of back door BC on me.
Ron Paul has doomed the libertarian movement to another year of obscurity with his half-baked isolationist theories and his own self-serving earmark requests.
Kudos for helping to expose him. We need true libertarians out there and that means people like you who are willing to call Paul and his cronies on the carpet when they violate our core principles!
You’ve just gained a new reader!
WHAT THE HELL ARE ALL YOU TALKING ABOUT! RON PAUL DIDN”T REQUEST ANY EARMARKS! HE WAS JUST PASSING THESE REQUESTS ALONG! HE DID NOT VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTION! HE DID NOTHING WRONG! HE IS THE ONLY TRUE LIBERTARIAN OUT THERE AND YOU GUYS ARE THROWING HIM UNDER THE BUS! WAKE UP! ONLY RON PAUL CAN BRING OUR TROOPS HOME! ONLY RON PAUL CAN RESTORE OUR GOVERNMENT! ONLY RON PAUL CAN GET TO THE TRUTH ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT”S INVOLVEMENT IN 9/11!
RON PAUL IS THE ANSWER! STOP LYING ABOUT HIM! THIS IS DISGUSTING YOU STUPID NEO-CONS ARE GOING TO DESTROY THE COUNTRY WITH YOUR WAR MONGERING WAYS WHILE THIRD WORLD BROWN ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE FLOODING ACROSS OUR BORDERS AND RAPING OUR WOMEN AND KILLING OUR CHILDREN! THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT CAPABLE OF CIVILIZED SOCIETY! I DON”T WANT MY GRANDCHILDREN TO BE SOME COCKEYED HALFBREED!
VOTE FOR PAUL! IMPEACH THE BUSHIES! DO NOT COME TO SITES LIKE THIS ONE THAT SUPPORT KING GEORGE! THEY WANT TO INSTITUTE MARTIAL LAW AND TAKE AWAY YOUR RIGHTS! NOTHING THEY SAY ABOUT RON PAUL IS TRUE!
Bobby,
You may wonder why you are no longer able to post here. Let’s make it clear. This site does not allow racist comments or liars.
BobbyBalls on September 1, 2007 12:40 pm said:
“THIS IS DISGUSTING YOU STUPID NEO-CONS ARE GOING TO DESTROY THE COUNTRY WITH YOUR WAR MONGERING WAYS WHILE THIRD WORLD BROWN ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE FLOODING ACROSS OUR BORDERS AND RAPING OUR WOMEN AND KILLING OUR CHILDREN! THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT CAPABLE OF CIVILIZED SOCIETY! I DON”T WANT MY GRANDCHILDREN TO BE SOME COCKEYED HALFBREED!”
I.e. “racist”
You also said:
“RON PAUL DIDN”T REQUEST ANY EARMARKS! HE WAS JUST PASSING THESE REQUESTS ALONG!”
This is a lie and I know you have been fed it by your handlers, but the truth is if you look at the actual requests by Ron Paul himself he says clearly “I am requesting” with each one and they are on his letterhead.
Go fiddle about on another site with your tripe.
Why are you banning people from this site? Don’t you like what they have to say you stupid fascist! I see you don’t think to highly of free speech you turd!
Guess the only way you can pretend to be right is to silence people!
Bye-bye Allicia.
Maybe if you Paulbots would read the rules (specifically about trolling and lying) you wouldn’t get banned. However I think we have already established with the angry defenses of their messiah that they don’t think the rules apply to them.
FYI, these two are people that I know and who are on the mailing list of a friend of mine that is a huge Paul supporter. Bobby is his brother and actually acts like this in real life too just in case you are wondering.
He wrote a nasty, obscenity laced rant about this post and sent it off to all five of us who are on his list. You will probably be getting a reply from someone that calls himself “Corkscrew” as well.
I surprised that the guy who runs the list didn’t have the balls to post something yet.
Just a heads up!
A-hole you freaking twat! I see you have found a new place to help you spread your anti-Paul BULL SHIT!
Every damn word here against Ron Paul is factually inaccurate! Look at it all!
Go attach a pair of jumper cables to your nuts and turn the car on!
Looks like we’re back on the radar of the “Paul Collective”
And another ban for Mr. Corkscrew!
Arthur, not to sound rude, but why would you be “friends” with people like this?
Because I’m married to the kid’s sister. And when I say “kid” I mean it. Just turned 18 last month and determined to change the world! Problem is he knows nothing about the world (barely passed history last year and got into two shouting fights with his teacher over how the moon landing was faked and how there was no wholesale slaughter of civilians after the US pulled out of Vietnam).
Wait and see if he posts too. He’s got some REALLY top notch conspiracy theories about the free masons and how Cheney ordered the planes flown into the Pentagon and WTC Towers.
To call him brainwashed would be to insult brainwashed people but he’s been hanging around the local Ron Paul group (7 total people LOL!) and sucking up everything they tell him!
Allicia, Bobby & Corkscrew say it with me now:
“I … must serve … the Paul!”
“I … must serve … the Paul!”
“I … must serve … the Paul!”
“I … must serve … the Paul!”
“I … must serve … the Paul!”
“I … must serve … the Paul!”
“I … must serve … the Paul!”
And these people wonder why no one takes them seriously?
Anyway just wanted to let you know Mr. Jackson that you’ve stirred up a hornets nest with your unflinching spotlight on Mr. Paul’s dubious actions. Lots of “Paulbots” are working hard to basically discredit you and your article last week but are still using the same talking points that have already been destroyed several times. I’ve seen your article pop up a couple times with Paulbots trying to make a valid point but in the end just sounding like the robotic tools that they are.
I do like your brand of libertarianism though and I just wanted to let your know that.
Let me lay this on the line. You know what bugs people the most about the “Paulbots”? Its the fact that they don’t give a hoot about anything other than defending their candidate on blogs like this.
Jeff makes a post which is well researched, flawlessly cited and they see it pop up in the aggregator and rush in to denounce it. Meanwhile Jeff and others here make 100’s of other posts about limited government, liberty and freedom and the Constitution which only verify their credentials as libertarians and conservatives and not a damn peep out of them agreeing or disagreeing.
They aren’t worried about actually being part of a community and on the off chance they do actually respond to a post not pointing out Paul’s failings they always have to mention Ron Paul anyway. They are just worried about being shock troops for their candidate bantering around in circles, never accepting the truth and just generally being trolls.
I’ll second that Trigger. The problem with Paul People is that they are just out to cause problems. No real depth. No real consistency. No real care for anything except defending Ron Paul from the evil conservatives that want him to be held accountable when he strays from the conservative path.
Then of course there was the debate last night where Ron Paul blew up at daring to be asked the obvious followup question to his oft used excuse “Well Al Quaeda said they attacked us because we were on Saudi Soil!” That question was should we base our foreign policy on what others demand or tell us to do.
His response was an indignant “NOOOOOO!” even though he just said that that was a reason why were were attacked and why we should not be there.
This man practices pseudo-libertarianism at it’s finest. And you can see the traps that it places him in. But he can’t because he is too wed to his false ideals.
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